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Post by restlesswind on Oct 23, 2007 11:53:48 GMT 1
Tomorrow Never Knows or RainThese are 2 of my favorite Beatles tracks, but to pick one is hard for me. It depends on my mood i guess... I love Johns voice on tnk, but like the tune to Rain.
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Post by New York City on Oct 23, 2007 20:36:12 GMT 1
Both great songs by Lennon.
The 'seagulls' on Tomorrow never knows was groundbreaking, but I think McCartney was responsible for that
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Post by restlesswind on Oct 24, 2007 16:48:12 GMT 1
Seagulls.... i read somewhere john said that, and it always cracked me up, what made that noise?
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Post by NowhereMan on Dec 22, 2007 16:19:17 GMT 1
Seagulls,I thought they were apparently supposed to sound like high pitched monks,or i must be mistaken,i find Rain incredibly cool and Tommorrow never Knows completely bonkers - But in a great way,i find it very hard to pick between the two.
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Post by Dr Winston on Dec 23, 2007 10:20:07 GMT 1
This is a very interesting piece from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
John Lennon wrote the song in January 1966, closely adapted from the book The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary, Richard Alpert, and Ralph Metzner, which they based on, and quoted from, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, with the understanding that the "Ego Death" experienced under the influence of LSD and other psychedelic drugs is essentially similar to the dying process and requires similar guidance.
The title never actually appears in the song's lyrics, but was instead taken from Ringo Starr's interesting collection of malapropisms. Lennon chose to do this because he was embarrassed about the spiritual theme of the lyrics in the song, so he decided to give the song a throwaway title.
The piece was originally titled "Mark I", "The Void" is cited as another working title.
The track was one of the first pieces of psychedelic rock, including highly compressed drums, reverse guitar, processed vocals, looped tape effects, a sitar and a tambur drone.
McCartney supplied a bag of ¼ inch-wide audio tape loops he had made by himself at home, which he started making after listening to Stockhausen's Gesang der Jünglinge. McCartney found out that if he took off the erase head of a tape recorder and then spooled a continuous loop of tape through the machine, anything he recorded would constantly keep overdubbing itself; creating a saturation effect. Engineers call this process musique concrète, or reinforced music. McCartney encouraged the other Beatles to use the same technique and create their own loops.
The numerous tapes McCartney supplied were played on five individual BTR3 tape machines, and controlled by non-plussed EMI technicians in studio two at Abbey Road on 7 April. The four Beatles controlled the faders of each machine, while Martin varied the stereo panning.The tapes created a seagull/Red Indian effect (which was McCartney shouting/laughing) and were made (like most of the other loops) by superimposition and acceleration.
Martin explained that the finished mix of the tape loops could never be repeated, because of the complex and random way in which they were laid over the music.
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Post by mojo on Feb 5, 2008 15:51:15 GMT 1
Rain.
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Post by TheVoid on Jul 13, 2008 6:10:03 GMT 1
Tomorrow Never Knows. I always thought Rain sounded a bit under produced. Not that its a bad thing, but I prefer the more psychedelic TNK. Still, Rain makes me think of summertime when I was a teen hanging with friends.
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Post by Dr Winston on Jul 13, 2008 9:20:37 GMT 1
Funny that.. I always thought 'Rain' was over-produced. I always think it should be slower, with less drums and backing, and with John's lead vocal much clearer.
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Post by TheVoid on Jul 13, 2008 18:44:22 GMT 1
Funny that.. I always thought 'Rain' was over-produced. I always think it should be slower, with less drums and backing, and with John's lead vocal much clearer. Well, the drumming and instrumentation is very sophisticated. I just mean the actual recording quality. Almost seems like the recording of it was rushed. Ringos drumming on that track is in the top 5 of his best drumming ever!! Of course, when I talk about production quality, this is just compared to Tomorrow Never Knows, not overall.
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Post by restlesswind on Jul 13, 2008 22:06:02 GMT 1
Just off topic for a mo if you dont mind folks, but your sig is very good void.. Did you make it yourself?
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Post by TheVoid on Jul 15, 2008 0:42:05 GMT 1
Just off topic for a mo if you dont mind folks, but your sig is very good void.. Did you make it yourself? OH thank you!!! Yes I did make it! I've made a bunch actually. Thanks for noticing and giving me the compliment!
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Post by restlesswind on Jul 15, 2008 20:11:01 GMT 1
It's ok. Really they are very good! and Ringos drumming is the best ever on this track.
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Post by Beatall on Jul 16, 2008 18:32:02 GMT 1
I am really into the Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows mix on the Love album. Great combination of 2 very different tunes.
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Post by Dr Winston on Jul 19, 2008 10:01:47 GMT 1
I am really into the Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows mix on the Love album. Great combination of 2 very different tunes. That track is my favourite from LOVE. Very cleverly done.
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Post by NowhereMan on Jul 24, 2008 7:24:19 GMT 1
TNK Over Rain
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